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May 13th, 2006 at 7:17 pm

Help with tables in WP 12 with XP

by TRhymestine on Sat May 13, 2006 9:06 am
Hello. I’m a new user of WP and wonder if someone could help me. I use a table to enter and calculate time sheets for several employees at work. I need a way to lock the format of the table, line spacing and column width, etc, so it can not be changed while allowing me to enter data in all cells. Anyone have a thought on this?
Thank you.

First, consider using Quattro Pro instead of WordPerfect. You already have it, and it’s far superior for this type of work, and the table functionality in WordPerfect is a subset of what’s possible in QP.

The ‘lock’ feature in Tables won’t do it–it’s the reverse of what you need, and will stop changes in content, but not format. You could use that to lock the formulas that add across and down, or that calculate the hours per department or totals. Same problem happens in QP; where protecting cells won’t stop format changes–just content.

I’m wondering why protecting format is important. If it’s so that each week’s schedule is the same, consider saving the document as a template. That will protect the original from accidentally being overwritten. Templates work in both WP and QP.

If what you need is a finished report that looks the same every week to work as first a schedule and then a final timesheet, it could be done on a 2-page QP spreadsheet, where page 1 is a data-entry area for you, and page 2 is pulled together automatically from the input page. Setup would be substantial; may be overkill, depending on the size of the staff.

Hint, from someone who did this in Lotus 123 around 20 years back–hidden columns are really handy for hiding intermediate calculations, or for hiding hourly rates in the posted schedule, while keeping them in the spreadsheet for the management projections that show outside the printed range in QP or on another page in WP.

Thank you for the reply, Graphcat. My problem is when I try to copy and paste. Sometimes the cursor changes when I’m over a column line and the dragging motion to copy ends up moving the line. It is frustrating and time consuming to have to reverse the change. I was hoping for an easy fix. I have the formula cells protected, so that is not a problem. I will look into QP. Again, thank you.

First, the fast way to fix a mistake is Undo–just press Control-Z.

And second, note that the cursor changes to affect the row properties when it’s in the extreme top right corner of the right-hand cell of each row, so be careful not to click there if all you wanted to do was move to that location for entering data.

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April 3rd, 2006 at 7:12 pm

lost icons!!!!!!!!!!

Post by colorbzb on Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:51 pm
I have a question regarding WORD PERFECT. My friend and I were using it to write poetry and she inadvertently hit something that removed the icons on the task bar and we can’t get them back. 😯 Do you know how to get them?
thanks,colorbzb 😯
colorbzb

Probably just turned off the toolbar, but I don’t know which one was running. You’ll have to experiment a little. Go to the View menu, choose ‘Toolbars…’ and try out the items on the list. Most likely, you had the “WordPerfect 12” toolbar running, or the version matching your WordPerfect installation. You can run as many as you like, but they’re very similar, and they all take up screen space, so one is generally plenty.

It’s also possible to actually remove the icons by right-clicking the bar and choosing to edit them, but that is actually difficult to do damage with–to remove a button, you’d have to drag them off the bar, one at a time. I doubt that’s what she did.

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February 23rd, 2006 at 6:47 pm

Windows XP Home Edition and Wordperfect 7

Postby Dave on Mon Feb 20, 2006 5:11 pm
Recently purchased a new Toshiba Laptop with 60 Gig Hard Drive and only 128MB RAM. It came with lots of Microsoft “trial” software and I installed Wordperfect 7 (the entire suite) and it seemed to work fine at first. When I tried to create a table in a WordPerfect Document, I immediately get a message that says the program is going to close and I will probably lose all data. Any ideas? Is this just another Microsoft dirty trick or is there a simple workaround? I have attempted to remove all the Microsoft “trial” software but it will not completely go away. Instead, the Microsoft packages are still listed and show a “reinstall” option.

I do not expose this Laptop to the Internet. Much of my work is copyright sensitive and I cannot take that risk with that computer. For Internet communications, I use an old AMD Clone with a slow Modem connection.

Any ideas?

Thanks for your assistance.

Not everything is an evil plot. Most stuff is just bad testing.

I’m assuming that you have the 32-bit version of WordPerfect 7. There was also a 16-bit version–the CD or readme file will say what the system requirements were–if it says ‘Windows 3.1’ don’t attempt to run it under Windows XP.

You’re going to have to explain to Windows XP that you’re running a program that likes an older version of Windows, probably Windows 98.

First, find the icon that starts WordPerfect. Right-click, choose Properties. Click the third tab at the top, marked ‘Compatibility’. Add a check at “Run this program in compatibility mode for ” and select ‘Windows 98/Windows Me’ from the list. Add a checkmark below, at ‘Disable visual themes.’ Click OK.

Then test. If all is normal, fine. If not, try the setting for Windows 95 in the compatibility menu–WordPerfect 7 came out during the early days of Windows 95.

Jerry Stern
Moderator and Webmaster

Postby Dave on Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:26 am
Jerry:

Thanks for the prompt response. I will try your suggestions and keep you posted.

Best regards,

Dave

Postby Dave on Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:53 pm
Jerry:

No luck. I tried changing the settings to emulate Win 95 and later, Win 98, all to no avail. The software works fine for what I consider to be everyday word processing activity but every time I try to create a table, I get the instant threat from “Big Brother.”

I’m beginning to think it might have something to do with memory or the memory management Toshiba is using for this laptop. However, this was not a problem on a similarly configured desktop.

Any other ideas?

As always, thanks for trying to help.

Dave

Postby Graphcat on Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:02 am

Post the full error message, please. And the exact version number of WordPerfect–you’ll find it on the Help, About… screen. It’s probably around 6 digits.

While I could easily blame startupware (see my other site, http://www.startupware.com ), and say that Toshiba did a very bad job configuring the software, that’s actually being unkind–they’re no worse than Sony and better than most. All pre-built computers are shipped overloaded with software that conflicts with each other–that’s the revenue model; software comes free on those systems for a reason, and it’s not all as an inducement for you to buy the computer. Some is to sell you something else, like an antivirus data subscription or a web service, and some is adware or sometimes worse. In general, uninstall all the junk that you won’t use; don’t just let it sit there running in the background; it causes problems like these.

Jerry Stern
Moderator and Webmaster

Postby Dave on Wed Feb 22, 2006 7:03 pm
Jerry:

You asked for the full error message and the version of WordPerfect 7 I am using. Here goes: Appver 7.0.2.19

Error Message:
Banner across top says Corel WordPerfect Version 7 executable

Next, the body of the message states that:
Corel WordPerfect Version 7 executable has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience.

Next, it advises: If you are in the middle of something, the information you were working on might be lost.

Then it provides a link to review the detailed information about the error.

When the link is clicked-on, it lists Appver 7.0.2.19 ModVer User 32dll and Modver 5.1.2600.2622 and finally, offset: 00002ff0c

Then it gives you the opportunity to delve into the mysterious world or programming (as I interpret it) and it also gives you a “CLOSE” button.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Dave

Postby Graphcat on Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:46 pm

Well, the error is too generic to tell me anything except that the error has something to do with a memory violation or fault, which, despite the sound of it, is not a hardware issue. It could mean that it’s crashing, simply, because it was never designed to run with NTFS drives (it wasn’t).

But the version number is old. Go here:
ftp://ftp.corel.com/pub/WordPerfect/wpwin/70/

and click on !index.txt for the description of the available patches for WP7. You’ll want either of the first or second files listed to take WP up to version 7.02.45. Both do the same thing, eventually–one patches and the other replaces the old files. The patch version is probably easier–it’s much smaller. (still 4.5 Mb)

Now here is where ancient history comes in. As I recall from 1997, the ’45’ build was required to run in Windows NT 4.0. As far as WordPerfect is concerned, that’s a LOT closer to Win XP than Windows 95.

Dave wrote:Then it gives you the opportunity to delve into the mysterious world or programming (as I interpret it) and it also gives you a “CLOSE” button.

If it’s a big set of numbers, it’s the mystic world of memory dumps, and of null value. The only thing worthwhile in those messages in the name of the ‘module’ that caused the error, in the first line.

Jerry Stern
Moderator and Webmaster

Postby Dave on Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:37 am
Jerry:

Thanks to your wisdom, I have finally been able to resolve the issue. WP7 is now functioning correctly in the “Table Mode” and I actually made a small table and printed the result just to prove it. I even did a complete shut-down and tried it again from scratch with the same positive result.

Because you suspected the problem was software related and possibly memory related, I decided to visit CNet’s download site and try to locate a free utility called Startup Mechanic. Sure enough, it was available and will easily fit on a standard IBM type floppy. I took the download on the floppy and put it into a USB floppy drive attached to the Toshiba. Then copied it to the desktop. Once it was there, when I “clicked on it” the actual installation began and took only a few seconds.

I had read the CNet reviews on this little gem and it certainly has some limitations. It can disable but not remove softare. Upon opening, it provided a nice little menu, allowed me to search the C drive and then provided 4 categories of software it had found: 1. Necessary; 2. Useful;
3. Un-necessary and finally, 4. Harmful.

Sure enough, there were about 5 harmful listings. I checked them all to be disabled, ran the program and viola! End of problem in WP7 Table Mode.

I sincerely appreciate your assistance. BTW, the Toshiba seems to run a little faster now.

All my best,

Dave

Postby Graphcat on Thu Feb 23, 2006 4:55 pm

Well, you’re welcome.

By the way, do install the WP 7 patch from the Corel FTP site; it fixes some subtle stuff.

‘Startup Mechanic’ started around 10 years back as a free utility in one of the ZiffDavis magazines. Now, there are dozens of products in the category; I use ‘HijackThis’ because it will disable just about anything, and run directly from a USB pocket drive. Handy.

Jerry Stern
Moderator and Webmaster
Author of Graphcat and FileTiger
http://www.startupware.com
http://www.filetiger.com
https://www.graphcat.com

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January 18th, 2006 at 3:31 pm

Problem with Merge feature

Postby George on Wed Jan 18, 2006 1:26 pm
Hi everybody from up in Canada.
I’m happily using WordPerfect 7.0 with Windows 98 even though (I know it makes me a Neanderthal). I’m maintaining a membership database with about 215 records, each with 13 fields.
Lately, the Merge feature has gotten extremely slow. And when the “Update record list” button is clicked (to, e.g. shift from 1 – 100 to 1 – 250) things seem to freeze.
Previously, everything worked pretty fast. I don’t have too powerful a processor (Intel Celeron 400 mhertz, 32 kb primary memory cache and 128 kb secondary memory cache). Could this be the problem. The database size hasn’t increased very much from when Merge was very fast.
Any suggestions much appreciated. George

George

Postby Graphcat on Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:20 pm
If you mean 32 Mb system memory (and not 32 Kb CPU cache, built into the chip), then that’s the problem. Win98 with WP7 can’t do much with less than 128 Mb. That amount (128 Mb) would have been a lot when 400 Mhz machines were being built. 32 or 64 Mb was typical.

To find the memory, look in My Computer, Control Panel, System, and you’ll see the actual installed memory in the bottom right of the main page, on the “General” tab.

Memory is still available for 400 Mhz systems, and is just barely worthwhile, if you’re going to keep the system at least another year, and if it’s otherwise OK. Machines that age are well into retirement age, so don’t try to teach them any new tricks or load any new (bigger) software.

George wrote:Could this be the problem. The database size hasn’t increased very much from when Merge was very fast.
Any suggestions much appreciated. George

Well, startupware or spyware is also a big possibility. If so, everything will be slower, not just merges. When in doubt, scan. The easiest free online scan is at http://www.trendmicro.com, and that can check for both viruses and spyware. It won’t check for startupware–that’s just any software that autostarts–some of that is good, some is evil, some is useful, and more than a little bit is a doorstop. (See my other site, http://www.startupware.com for more information.) Take a look at what’s loading with Windows (look in the system tray, by the clock, for starters) and uninstall from Add/Remove Programs in Control Panel anything there that you’re not actually getting a benefit from.

Jerry Stern
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Author of Graphcat and FileTiger
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November 28th, 2005 at 3:25 pm

WP Suite 8: Printing custom-sized envelopes

Postby LaRicaine@tiscali.fr on Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:55 am
My father, 89 years old and still going strong, sent me a call for help on printing custom-size envelopes (he’s doing his Christmas card mailing). I live far away (I’m in France, he’s in California), so I can’t go look at the problem myself and troubleshoot it. I’m hoping someone on this bulletin board might have had a similar problem and know how to solve it. Here’s his message:

“When I click on Format/envelope, I get the expected screen, and can print envelopes of a few specific sizes, but if I go to “create envelope” and specify some size that’s not already in the menu, it just doesn’t work right. Can’t get the printer to print it, and the address doesn’t transfer to the form as it should. What happens is that the printer starts going, and feeds sheet after sheet through without printing anything on them.

I reinstalled the printer, and reinstalled the WordPerfect, and still get the same results.

All this has happened since the advent of the crashed hard disk and the new hard disk that hp installed.

OK, so I designed my own envelope on WordPerfect, as a file, and have been printing the Christmas card envelopes, but it’s a slow process with this setup.”

Can anyone help him out with this?
Thanks!
Irene

Postby Graphcat on Sun Nov 27, 2005 10:21 am

I don’t understand what’s happening yet. Format/envelope doesn’t involve forms. Are we talking about capturing an address block off the current document and putting it into the box?

Printing sheet after sheet of blanks or junk is usually caused by the wrong printer driver. Not always a bad one; just a driver designed for some other printer model.

In general, the easiest way to do lots of envelopes in WP is to ignore the Envelope feature, and instead go to Format, Page, Page Setup, choose the envelope size there. Be sure to set the Paper Source option to match where the envelopes will be.

Then add a page header including the return address a few blank lines to take up space (and move the TO address down), and then, OUTSIDE AND AFTER the header, add a left margin code of enough space to position the address block.

Result: your own envelope document. Save it. To use, just put in the list of addresses at the end of the document, with no formatting, and a hard page code after each (ctrl-enter). The return address header will show up on every page automagically.

OK, so I designed my own envelope on WordPerfect, as a file, and have been printing the Christmas card envelopes, but it’s a slow process with this setup.”

Sounds like it’s most of the way done, other than adding the list and the hard page codes. Using a normal document this way is much more flexible and powerful and reliable than the format/envelope tool.

Jerry Stern
Moderator and Webmaster

Postby LaRicaine on Sun Nov 27, 2005 11:48 am

Thank you, Jerry.
I have forwarded your message to my dad. I also posted on a couple of other forums, and was told he needs to upgrade his version of WP. They sent a link to the FTP site. I know he had a hard disk crash and HP’s repairs included an upgrade to XP Home from W98. I doubt he has done any upgrading at all of his version of WP, so the problem could well be there.

Thanks for the tip on creating an envelope document. I have done that, too, and find it’s useful for printing out a series of envelopes (I use MS Word). I think my dad may be using the envelope function with his address book, and in any case he’s the sort of person who wants things to work the way they’re supposed to, and will keep trying until he gets it to work.

If he doesn’t get his problem sorted out, I’ll post again.
Best regards,
Irene

Postby Graphcat on Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:16 pm

Irene, you didn’t mention the version of WP your father is using, but just about every version has problems with the envelope feature, and works better using format/ page to select the paper type. So upgrading isn’t really an issue. But the service packs on the FTP site will generally help; they fix lots of small bugs that aren’t usually listed in the description of the patch.

Whoa. I just read what you wrote again. “An upgrade to XP Home from Win98.” In other words, a computer that dates to before Windows Me is now walking (not running) Windows XP? Yikes. My rule is that everything on a computer should be around the same age. I wouldn’t load XP on anything slower than 800Mhz, and there weren’t many boxes that came with 98 on them that are at that speed level.

Let’s forget my disbelief at the bad advice he received. Your father needs to find the icon for WP, right-click it, go to Properties, and look for the ‘Compatibility’ settings. In there, tell XP to treat that program as if it were running in Win Me, and to ‘disable themes’. That will solve lots of issues with old WP versions in XP.

Jerry Stern
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Author of Graphcat and FileTiger
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October 1st, 2005 at 7:09 pm

Emailing a fill in the blanks form

Post by Patsplace on Sat Oct 01, 2005 8:03 pm
Howdy folks,
Here’s the question. When a form that I’m building is filled in and I email it to an individual, how do I save it so that the person that receives it can’t either change the form format or change the information that is entered in the blanks?
Thanks for your help.
Pat

Just set up the form as a table. For any cell (or row, or column), just select and right-click the area you want to make uneditable, and choose Format… in the pop-up menu, and go to the ‘Cell’ tab, and in the ‘Cell Attributes’ area at lower right, add a checkmark to ‘Lock cell to prevent changes’. (Menu text as in WP12; slightly different in older versions, but in the same area, and works as far back as WP51/DOS.) Bonus: locked cells can’t be tabbed into.

You can also send the form as part of a WP template, but that will not work unless you also send an install program or other help to explain how to open it–you can’t just click a template to run it, for safety reasons. Templates are also designed to keep users of forms from messing with the format.

Note that while forms and templates can be set as locked, or just made very difficult to tamper with, there is no password to turn off cell locks; it just takes a knowledgeable user to go into the table structure and uncheck that box. And editing templates is also possible; it just takes about 4 steps to get into the guts of the document.

These methods are good enough to keep honest people from making a mess of the document. But if you have to distribute this to a large group to fill in and return, the best approach is likely to do the design work in WordPerfect, and then publish to PDF, open it in Adobe Acrobat Pro, and draw the input fields there, and add any calculation or automation features there, and lock everything as needed. The result could be filled and printed (not saved) in the free Reader, or saved with filled fields in any of the paid versions.

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August 29th, 2005 at 3:22 pm

Fonts not printing

Postby dcjohan on Sun Aug 28, 2005 1:13 pm
I have WP 11 set up on 2 different w2k boxes; one print s everything, and the other is balking at printing the majority of fonts. Airel and times print fine, but the one box is giving print errors on most of the other fonts. The box giving trouble had WP10 which I removed and replaced with wp11 but the problem remains. I believe this is not specifically a wp problem, but it is the only program giving the errors, samples of which follow.

ERROR: invalidfont
OFFENDING COMMAND: show

STACK:
( )

————-

ERROR: invalidfont
OFFEND COMMAND: xshow

STACK:
[122 52 83 87 74 83 53 53 50 105 74 64 0 ]
( )

The xshow is by far the more common of the two. Any suggestions greatly appreciated.

dave

dcjohan

Postby Graphcat on Mon Aug 29, 2005 9:19 am

Right–it probably is not a WP problem, but it’s fairly easy to find out.

FIRST, go to Control Panel, Printers, find the printer that’s selected in WordPerfect (might not be the default), right-click, choose Properties, and print a test page. If it doesn’t work, replace the driver. There are a lot of versions of Postscript–you’ll need to download the new driver from the printer builder; do NOT rely on Windows Update for these advanced items.

You didn’t identify the printer involved, or if it’s the same printer for both boxes. From the error message, it’s clearly using a Postscript driver. Every modern Postscript printer also has a non-postscript driver, usually emulating an HP LaserJet (model varies with age, and whether it’s color or not).

Try these things:

1) Switch to the non-Postscript driver. For most work that doesn’t involve leading or very large or very small fonts, it won’t make a difference in the print quality. At the least, test with the other driver.

2) Look at what fonts you’re using–in Control Panel, Fonts, you can see the filenames; TrueType is TTF, and Type1 is pfm.

TrueType should work–they ship with Windows and WordPerfect, and if you’re missing some, WordPerfect will automatically substitute an existing font based on the style of the font. It’s usually good enough, within the basics, and wrong but readable on others. You can tell if this is happening by looking at the font codes in Reveal Codes, and seeing if there is an asterisk at the beginning of the fonts that doesn’t work. If you highlight a font code with the asterisk, it should show both the original and sustitute font. That said, it should not apply, as WP should do the substitution successfully; that’s an old feature that works well.

Type 1 fonts have to be installed to work, and they’re not part of WordPerfect and not part of Windows–find out what kind of font is used in the document, and how it was installed on the functioning setup, and add it to the bad setup.

3) You can also change the Postscript settings. You can reach these from the WordPerfect Print (F5) screen, but it’s part of the driver, not part of WordPerfect. Under Print (F5), Properties, go to the tab marked Postscript, and try changing the settings for data compression and binary data (ASCII85 or tagged binary). Write down the starting settings before you experiment. Sometimes checking ‘clear memory per page’ under Advanced helps, if that option appears for that printer.

Jerry Stern
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Author of Graphcat and FileTiger
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August 11th, 2005 at 4:35 am

Printing booklet in WP 10

by Lee Whitney on Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:30 am
Here’s another frustration. Up to now I’ve been able to print booklets and get the pagination to work correctly so that a series of pages would read from the beginning of the booklet to the end. I hadn’t done any of this for quite some time but as I recall it used to be quite simple. With a printer that will print both sides of the paper I thought producing a chapbook would be simplicity itself. I was wrong. I should say that I am using landscape orientation with two columns, giving me four pages on each sheet. Basically what now happens is that I get pp. 1-4 on the first sheet, 5-8 on the second, etc.

The whole business of pagination in a booklet makes my head swim and I used to be so pleased to just hit “Booklet” or some such and let WP figure out what page went on the back of which.

Lee Whitney

As compared to what should happen, of page sequence 8, 1, 2, 7, on sheet one and 3, 6, 4, 5 on sheet 2. That feature does work well in WP10, although I haven’t tried it on my Samsung duplex printer, because the printer driver provided by Samsung has its own pamphlet feature built-in; to use that, format as full pages, and print with the option turned on, and the printer shrinks the pages. Nifty.

But to keep to the WordPerfect method: You wrote “columns”. In the old days, we used to lay these out with labels, and then feed them through either my Bookbild program, or Alex Ogden’s Booklet System, depending on the version of WP. NOW, it should be “divided pages.” That’s on the page layout menu.

No other special formatting is needed–just the divided pages code. In the printer driver properties, however, you’ll probably have to change the duplex setting to ‘short edge’. The usual setting for full-size pages is to flip the back on the ‘long edge’.

Jerry Stern
Moderator and Webmaster
Author of Graphcat and FileTiger
https://www.graphcat.com

Postby Guest on Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:11 pm
I think I’m missing something. On the Print Layout tab (“Print to Canon PIXMA iP4000″) there is no ‘divided page’ code. Under Format>Page>Page Setup, the ‘Layout’ tab, there is. ‘Divide Page’ gives the usual possibilities of ‘Columns’ and ‘Rows.’ (That’s where I was getting the old term from.) If I don’t specify 2 columns I get a landscape page instead of a Letter page. Further, it seems that if I specify only ‘Divided Page > 2 Columns’ I get pp. 1 & 2, 3 & 4, etc., insteadof 8 & 1, 2 & 7, or whatever.
There seem to be a plethora of overlapping choices. On that same layout tab, at the top, under ‘TwoSided Printing,’ there is a choice of Off, Book, and Tablet. ‘Book’ sounds hopeful. But down under ‘Divided Page’ off to the right is a checkbox marked ‘Booklet.’

What’s frustrating about all this is that I used to print Church Bulletins and the like weekly. It seems to me though that every time I upgraded to a new version of WP (I started using the program when it came on a single 5.25” floppy I inserted into the machine after booting with the DOS floppy – those were the days!) they had devised some totally other method of accomplishing the task.

I did check my printer driver and there is a way of printing a brochure with the printer but what happens is the full page gets scaled down to fit the half page, margins are huge, and the print is just a bit larger than that in the ‘squint’ edition of the Oxford English Dictionary.

I have a book promotion coming up on the 28th and I wanted to have some selected stuff, from the book, available in chapbook format (20 pages). I hate to have to pay somebody else to do the job, when I know it can be done and you assure me that the feature works well in WP 10!

Please forgive me if I’m simply being startlingly obtuse!

Postby Graphcat on Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:55 am
No, you’ve found the right box–I wanted to be sure that “columns” did NOT mean that the page was split using columns feature (format, columns), and it’s clear you’re using the Print Layout tab, and that does have the options you need.

Odd–my WP10 doesn’t show a booklet option on that dialog. And having a ‘book’ option there at the top doesn’t make sense either–as you know from the paper source issue in the other thread, WP10 sometimes had options to do things involving paper in both the printer driver and the printer layout areas, and they didn’t all work; I suspect that the proper choice is the one in the printer driver properties; I’ve sent a message to an expert on booklets and we’ll see what he thinks.

In the meantime, I’d try ‘2 columns’ in the page setup/layout box, with ‘off’ at the top, and then go to the Print properties for the rest: in the Print, Layout, Two-sided printing, choose ‘book’ AND ‘print as booklet’.

As for the ‘good old days’ of DOS, WP couldn’t print booklets with the pages in the right order without help. We had to use either my Bookbild program or Alex Ogden’s ‘WP Booklet System’ to do that, and those programs did brute-force rearrangement of the pages into a temporary printing document. Tricky stuff.

Jerry Stern
Moderator and Webmaster
Author of Graphcat and FileTiger

Post by Michael Bishop on Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:45 pm
I’m responding from work and I do not have access to my own computers with everything ready to go.

It sounds like a set-up problem, but I could be wrong. Make sure that you check “booklet” in the page layout as well as the columns. Then when you go to print, select print, both sides, etc., as you did in the past. When I graduated to WordPerfect 10, I think that I ran into a similar problem until I discovered the box for booklet and tablets.

If this does not work or if you have other problems with booklet, please feel free to let me know. I have a Panasonic laser duplex printer which I use most of the time and I also have the same Samsung color laser duplex printer that Jerry has.

Michael Bishop

Post by Michael Bishop on Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:18 pm
As of this week, I also have basically the same Samsung color laser printer at work, thanks to Jerry. The whole office is delighted.

Michael Bishop
http://www.Michael-Bishop.com
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July 29th, 2005 at 7:07 pm

WP 10 and Canon iP4000 printer

by Lee Whitney on Fri Jul 29, 2005 9:56 am
The iP4000 printer has provision for printing either from the usual source of paper or from a cassette. This would make it possible for me to use the cassette for regular paper and the usual one for photopaper (or vice versa), as I do a lot of both kinds of printing. However, WP 10 seems only to recognise the usual source, no matter which I direct it to use in the Properties tab on the print menu. Does anyone know of a fix?

I’ve gone down that road with WP 10 and an HP Laserjet 4 with extra paper tray–there is definitely a bug in 10 regarding paper source. As I recall, the issue was that the paper was being selected based on what the printer defined the contents of the tray to, matched with the paper type chosen in the paper selection dialog. Yes, that’s convoluted, and yes, that will result in WP ignoring the physical location you’ve selected.

The eventual fix was to upgrade to WP12, which behaves better with multiple paper sources.

What helped in both 10, and setting up the fix in 12 (working from memory here): We created an alternate paper type (_letterhead) and set the paper type AND the paper source directly in the properties for the paper type.

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July 28th, 2005 at 3:19 pm

Multi-column Format Problem

Postby a3howard on Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:18 pm
I’m having problems with test and page numbers running together in a multi-column index.

The index is a 2 level index with dot leaders. In most cases, the second level entry is displayed as two lines if the entry is too long for one line. However, many of the entries overlap the page number. Removing the dot leaders does not help.

Thanks in advance

Alan

Postby Graphcat on Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:58 am
It sounds like there’s just too much text to convert to columns. The fix is probably to either edit the tab settings for that page, or choose a condensed font. In either case, the code that makes that change has to be placed before the index generate code, or it will be lost when you regenerate the document.

Another approach may be to change to a different index style, or edit it (in the definition for the index, choose Define…). Test it without the flush right code prior to the page number, and once that works, see if it’s practical to add spacing back in.

I suspect that combining indented second level entries plus flush-right number (dot leaders or not), just may not fit. You could force the issue by adding a hrt code in the second level style definition for the index, but that would move the line number down to its own line for all 2nd-level entries, not just the long ones.
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Postby Guest on Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:43 pm
Thanks for the reply. Certainly changing the tab setting or font size will affect the layout. Unfortunately, the problem just moves.

I’ll try different index styles.

The confusing part is that WP correctly breaks most of the long second level entries at word boundaries but not all. I wonder if a different font family would resolve the problem.

The suggestion to insert a hard return at the end of long entries is possible too.

Postby Graphcat on Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:28 am

Hmmm. I wrote to use a modified style in the index for that, but on further thought, you could simply extend the marking codes for the index by one additional character at the end of each long heading, and include the hrt code at the end of the line. Might be more control that way.

If WP isn’t breaking the lines properly, take a look at the “hyphenation zone” settings–they’re probably too small.

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