Post by Ellen on Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:08 am
I’m using WP10 in my office. If I open more than one file at a time, or perform several tasks in a row, the program locks up for several minutes (up to 1/2 hour). Very inconvenient and frustrating. Any suggestions?
Any help will be appreciated.

Ellen

Postby Graphcat on Wed Jun 08, 2005 3:39 pm
Is this new? Was it always that slow?

If it’s always been that way, the computer may be too slow or too underpowered. For WordPerfect 10, the system should have at least 256 Mb RAM, and the processor speed should be 800 MHz or better. Long pauses while working are typical of a system with not enough RAM; Windows compensates by writing parts of memory back and forth to the hard disk–it’s called buffering when it’s good, and thrashing when it’s excessive.

If it’s a new problem, then there is software running on the system that doesn’t belong there. Odds are that there is a spyware program (or bunches of them) in there.

Here’s some background on spyware, by yours truly:
http://www.filetiger.com/articles/spyware.html

To check, try running a spyware cleanup tool–the best of the free and easy ones that don’t need a lot of research is Spybot SD. (version 1.4 is out as of this writing). Look at http://security.kolla.de.

There are more powerful cleanup tools, but be careful; some are for professionals, and some of the ‘tools’ are in themselves spyware, so look up the reputation of any tool before using it, possibly on groups.google.com.

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by cliffmc on Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:52 pm
Being a strong proponent of WordPerfect, I find myself constantly converting MS Word docs to WP. How can I get rid of all those stupid codes imbedded in the Word doc? I have been using Find/Replace for each code, but that’s very cumbersome. Thanks for any advice.

cliffmc

Use ‘Paste Simple”. That pastes text without the codes.

Control-shift-V in versions of WP up to 10. For 11 & 12, Alt-Ctrl C. Or use the entry in the Edit menu.

That won’t clean up everything. For the really messy stuff, paste into Notepad or any other non-formatting text editor like NoteTab Pro (http://www.fookes.com), and then copy/paste back out into WordPerfect.
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Postby cliffc on Thu Jun 09, 2005 7:19 pm
WOW! That’s much better. I’ve been looking for that forever. I really hate all that messy stuff in Word docs. I figure Word is for people not smart enough to use WordPerfect! Thanks a bunch. Cliff 😀

cliffc

Postby Michael Bishop on Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:14 pm
Are you trying to describe a boss of mine? I really think that Word is for people not smart enough to know that there is an easier way of doing most things.

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Postby John Keller on Wed May 18, 2005 3:45 pm
Writing a book … WP 8.0 … using a Master Document … How do I attach subdoc’s (chapters) with separate endnotes for each chapter?

So when the book is complete it will inculde the endnotes at the end of each chapter.

John Keller

Post by Graphcat on Wed May 18, 2005 4:46 pm
Usually, it’s the reverse, with endnotes all together at the end of the book, unless there are different authors for each chapter. To keep notes separated by chapter, footnotes are the usual approach, and there are shipping macros (included in nearly all versions of WP) to convert between endnotes and footnotes. That said, it should be possible to do it with endnotes–you’ll have to experiment some.

Most likely approach would be to convert the endnotes to text within each subdocument. It’s likely that you would have to do that within each subdocument while the master document is CLOSED, so that you don’t end up converting the entire book’s set of endnotes into one block. Corel has a macro in their knowledge base to do the endnote–>text conversion, especially for WP 8.

You can search for the article by ID 205229 here:

http://kb.corel.com/scripts/texis.exe/kb/kb/search.html
How to Convert EndNotes to Text
Article ID: 205229

Jerry Stern

Post by John Keller on Wed May 18, 2005 5:13 pm
Thanks for your rapid response to my inquery … you gave me some things to work on … the possibility of turning the foot notes to text and adding them separately to each subdoc (chapter) is the simplist … so I will begin with that … this of course dose not easily permit editing in the future.

I am trying to get this document together for a publisher who requested that I present my manuscript in printer copy ready format (Word Perfect Only) … as I understand the publisher (who is short on words and high on demands) he want the book with endnotes at the end of each chapter … this is my first technical book … I have 28 years of research and work in the MS … I have of course not worked on it full time … this has always been a sort of hobby during my free time … had a busy schedule to say the least over the past 45 years … I am now 63.

Thanks again
John D. Keller

To make additional editing somewhat easier, keep two file sets of the subdocuments, before and after converting the endnotes to text, so you can always go back a step. Maintaining both through the edit process could be messy, but the set that has endnotes doesn’t have to include every edit, as long as the order of notes and the details of the notes themselves don’t change–that set is only for use to re-build and copy the endnotes as needed. Dangers of confusing the sets are pretty clear; I would be tempted to change the export-notes version to an unusual blue font or something else highly visible, just to keep things distinct and separated.

And you’re welcome.

by marialerro on Tue May 03, 2005 12:19 pm
Does anyone have a fix for WP9 documents opening in all caps with XP?

Postby Graphcat on Tue May 03, 2005 3:40 pm

XP? There is no WordPerfect XP. And no problem in WP 9 in Windows XP. What program are you opening the file in? Is it Word from Office XP?

Nothing on this topic appears in the Corel Knowledge Base. First, you need to check that the document was really typed in mixed case. That will be visible in Reveal Codes in WordPerfect. If it’s Word, you could check that by copying a sentence or paragraph and pasting it into Windows Notepad, where the font choice won’t show up, and the case will be visible.

If it’s all caps in Notepad, use the Convert Case feature. In WP, it’s in the Edit menu. WP will recognize beginnings of sentences properly, and should capitalize where needed. In Word, could be in either the Edit or Format menus; haven’t got a copy loaded to check.

On the other hand, if the pasted sample in Notepad is mixed case, then the font that Word assigned on opening the document is something odd that has only upper case in it. Stencil is nearly always like that, and there are others. If that’s the case, then just changing the font of the text to something more traditional (Arial, Times New Roman, Century Schoolbook) will fix it.

It’s also possible that Word marked the text as ‘small caps’. Same fix–choose a standard font, with that feature turned off. Or in WP, look in Reveal Codes and delete the extra font style code.
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Postby mlerro on Tue May 03, 2005 9:04 pm
Thank you for the reply!! The font change was the fix!! Can you clear up one more question for me? I realize that XP is not Word Perfect & that is the version of Windows I have. Wordperfect is downloaded on my computer– why does the document appear to be opened in WordPerfect, in fact it says it is in TimesNew Roman, until I right clicked & looked at the font there. Is that what you’d call backing into the program? Is there a way to avoid doing that when opening? (The files are being emailed to me to work on from home) I have been trying to work around it for over a week. I’m really grateful for your sharing your knowledge!

mlerro

Postby Graphcat on Wed May 04, 2005 7:51 am
Actually, “XP” is a name that Microsoft gave to both a version of Windows and a version of Office, which is their suite of programs that includes Word. It causes a lot of confusion because so many users bought their “XP” computers with both products pre-installed.

I still don’t know what program you’re running, although it’s probably Word XP. I’ll guess that you’re clicking on the file attachment to open it; that will open the file in whatever program has been set to open files of that type. It’s automatic, based on the 3-letter file extension ending the filename. Unfortunately, Windows, by default, hides that, but that’s a rant for another day. 😈

To actually take control of what program is opening a file, go to the Start menu, click ‘All Programs’ (or ‘Programs’ in pre-XP versions of Windows), and click on the program you want to work in. In this case, it’s either WordPerfect or MS Word. Once in the program, choose File, Open, and find the file you need to work in, and double-click to open it in the current program. For any given type of file, there are many programs that can edit it. WordPerfect is the most powerful document editor, but there are other excellent products from Sun/Open Office. And Word, of course, which is the product shipped with so many PCs.

That usually brings up another topic, of WHERE is the file? It really helps if you know where your email software is storing attachments. If not, use the ‘Find Files’ item in the Windows start menu to locate it; you’ll have to note the filename from the email for that.

Sorry if I just got too basic, but it’s useful for some of the others who will read these messages on the board.

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Post by richardsonfh on Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:29 pm
I am using a small watermark. 1.5 x 1.5. I want to number inside the watermarks. I have managed to put several on one page for printing purposes, but the numbers will not print on all. It will print appromately 1-5 then print just the watermarks. I am needing to do 30. Can someone help me? Oh yes, the numbers show in reveal codes, but no print. Thanks in advance..

richardsonfh

What version of WordPerfect is this?

What’s in the watermarks? Is it text, graphics, embedded objects?

In general, remember that a watermark is just a graphic with the image attributes set to fade it out partially. You can just as easily use a header or footer with positioning commands and appropriate gray fading. Or if they only have to appear on one page, then use graphics boxes.

Are they all the same on every page? Can they be combined into one larger image?

I really need more description to give more of an idea of how to make this work.

Equation editor – help please

Post by eileen shannon on Mon Apr 04, 2005 6:23 pm
I have been using the Equation editor. After I cut and paste the equation, its size changes. How do I make sure it stays the same size?

Eileen Shannon
Mon Apr 04, 2005 6:16 pm

A lot of the sizing issues would have changed with the version of WordPerfect; the equation editor has gone through some major rewrites over the years, and it doesn’t act the same in all versions. Which WP is it?

Note that dragging a graphic, including an equation, can resize it if you aren’t watching the mouse icon closely. Grab the image from the center, not the edge–look at how the pointer icon changes.

In general, once you’ve created a formula, it acts as a character-anchored graphic, in-line. If the size is wrong, you can adjust it in two basic ways:

1) In the equation editor, change the font size to match the surrounding text (11 points, or close, usually).

OR:
2) Right-click the box holding the formula, choose size, and set the width to ‘maintain proportions’ and the height to match the surrounding text. For a simple formula (c=2 Pi x r), 1/6″ is the approximate height of a normal line of text. Multiply 1/6″ as needed for the taller equations.

Note that putting an equation in a line of text will, by default, change the line height, because the line height is set to ‘auto’ unless you change it. You may have to override that ‘auto’ setting and change line height to 1/6″ for any paragraph containing a formula. (Again, 1/6″ based on typical 6 lines per inch single-spacing.)

Postby David R on Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:18 am
I have a saved document that is Password protected. I opened the document to look for information. No changes were made. Closed the document. Now when I open the same document I have a blank page.
Need help to recover the data that was on the document.

David R

Postby Graphcat on Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:24 am

Opening and closing without saving doesn’t change the document, so there is more going on than that.

The file could be corrupted; it happens to WordPerfect documents sometimes. The first, and simplest thing to try is importing the document into a blank document.

Steps: Open WP, press enter. That’s just to add a code or character (any will do) to the current document, so that it’s not empty.

Go to the Insert menu, choose File. Choose your document to insert into the current document. If the problem is a corrupted document header, WP should skip past the problem and insert it just fine, although custom styles (if any were used) may not show up.

Finally, save and BACK UP the file. Never rely on only one copy of vital files.

The other possibility is file corruption on the hard drive. Fix: restore from backup, or recreate the file somehow.

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Postby David R on Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:57 pm
Tried the insert. Didn’t work. Will look at the down load. May do that.
Any way, thanks for the help.

What is real strange besides the fact that the document is now blank. when we reopen we are never ask to enter a password. The path for the document is still the same as before.

Oh well, I guess it is just WordPerfect.

Again thanks for the help.

David R

I hope I’m wrong, but: Once before, I’ve seen a user try to open a file by clicking the wrong icon, for Save As, and then selecting their file, and then clicking Yes at the confirmation dialog for overwriting. That would replace the file with the current (probably blank) document. The file date/time may give a clue. If the file is the same size as an empty document stored under a new name, then that’s probably the issue, and there isn’t a fix, unless the Document Backup feature of WP was turned on, and then there should be another copy of the document with another extension in the same folder. (Note that the Document Backup is not the same as the Time Backup feature. The first is off by default in WP.)

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Postby Graphcat on Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:13 pm
(From my mailbag…)

I am sorry to bother you, but am wondering if you would know the answer to my problem. I am doing a document using index, table of contents, and table of authorities. However, all of the reference pages are listed after generation as one page more than the actual page it is on. When I click on the hyperlink, it takes me to the correct page, but the number for example, shows page 7, when the reference title is actually on page 6. I have removed all page numbering codes and renumbered the pages so the page numbers are correct. I have also double checked and triple checked the reveal codes to make sure they are where they are supposed to be, but after generation, it still shows up the wrong page number. Have you ever dealt with a problem like this? I am using WordPerfect 12 and MS XP. Never had a problem before like this. Any help would be appreciated. I used to belong to a WP group here in MI, but don\’t think is around anymore.

Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.

Gloria–

This sounds like a few things, some of which you’ve already looked at. Could be page number codes or odd items in reveal codes, right.

Could also be any of these:
Document reformatting by one page break near the front on insertion of the generated tables. (Look for 1-line pages in the generated document, or completely full pages in the pre-generation document. Adjust formatting to prevent.)

Corrupted document. Make a copy of the files in another folder, and test by chopping the document in half, but keep the tables. Generate, and see if the problem is only in one half of the document. Narrow it down from there. Or try the old corruption fix of creating a new document, add a space, and insert the file.

It’s also possible that you’ve exceeded WP’s capabilities of document complexity. That’s easy to test–remove the table of contents and table of authorities, and generate, and see if the index is correct. Repeat for the other generated sections. I suspect you’ll find you’re doing more than WP ever tested. If so, you might have to fudge it by inserting a few blank pages, generating the extra table separately, and then pasting the results into the final master document.

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Jerry,
Thank you so much for your reply. I did manage to fix the problem (I have a hard time giving up on a problem)… I found a page code in the opening document style page, deleted that, deleted any mention of any page code that I could find on any of the first few pages, entered new page codes, still wouldn’t work. Played around with the page numbering options. Looked at every code on the first 4-5 pages (.i..ii..iii..1..2) got rid of a few delay codes and just tried everything I could think of. And all of the sudden all the pages were correct when generated. So I am not really sure what really fixed it, but am sure it had to do with one of the codes.

Gloria

Post by Aspen Env on Mon Apr 04, 2005 12:30 am
Help
I have a friend that uses Word Perfect 6.1 for DOS (what can I say, he’s stuck in his ways).

In any event. he asked me to load the software on a laptop for him to use. In the process, I’m having trouble reading the install disk 1. It’s hanging up on the Install.exe file

I’m wondering if I can obtain a copy?

Second, I would ask if it will run under windows XP?

Thanks in-advance for your help.

Jon
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WordPerfect/DOS, version 6.1 or 6.2, might still be available from Corel. Might not, too-6.2 came out while WP was a Novell product. 6.2 is very similar to 6.1, and may have slightly better file compatibility with current versions, but do note that the WP file format changed at version 7, and is the same for 7-12.

Try 800-772-6735 (800-77COREL) to buy a copy; at one time Corel had a referral to a non-profit organization that they had allowed to resell the old versions–worth asking.

I assume that your friend can’t find the install disks. Note that WP 6.x, as a DOS application, doesn’t need installation the way Windows programs do. You can just copy the program folders to the new PC from his old box, and manually create startup shortcuts on the desktop.

It should run just fine under Windows XP. If it doesn’t, create a shortcut to run the program, right click it, and there should be a tab for compatibility. Choose ‘disable themes’ and tell XP to make the software act as though it is running under the oldest version of Windows shown in the list. Set it to run full-screen. Test it in both text mode and graphics mode, and in print preview–WP 6.x used different video modes. You’ll have to set the options in WP for the video card; try the autodetect first.

Printer drivers are another matter. (ahem) If he is running a laser printer, it’s probably OK; look in the manual for what it emulates. Try an HP LaserJet II or 4 driver; it is emulated by a lot of modern lasers. You may also need to use a “net use” command (see the Microsoft support pages) to redirect LPT1 to an existing printer. Tricky, but not too tough.

by Charles Lewis on Wed May 28, 2008 8:42 am
This is a bit off-topic, but I don’t see a better place for my question. I have been using WP8 for many years now and am very comfortable with it. At some point in the fairly new future I may wind up getting an Apple computer — and WP won’t run there unless I use a Windows window, which I probably would want to avoid.

I am wondering if anyone on this board has had experience with any Apple word processing programs or with Microsoft Word (which does have an Apple equivilent) and can suggest the best one to use if I have to make a switch. I particularly like the ability to put frequently used files on the menu and the ability to sort tables on any column I want.

I will await words of wisdom.
Charles Lewis

Postby Graphcat on Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:29 pm
Probably OpenOffice. The slideshow portion of the program is better than Presentations. The ‘Writer’ isn’t as good as WordPerfect, but it’s easily a match for the Mac version of Microsoft’s product.

It’s at http://www.openoffice.org

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